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Its about time they adapt to our culture, or they know where the door is.
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Why would music be an issue? 
I can understand the gym issue; but a good solution would be same-gender gym classes and/or a long sleeved gym uniform so everything/one is covered.
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| murphycop wrote: | | Its about time they adapt to our culture, or they know where the door is. |
There were Jehovahs Witness kids at our school who were excused School Assembly because there would be hymns sung. Nobody got bent out of shape about that. Well, some of us kids did, but only because we wanted out of the dullness as well. Then we found out they don't get Christmas and forgave them.
Honestly, why does anyone give a crap whether Muslim kids do PE or Music? So they'll grow up slightly less athletic, and not be able to play the oboe badly. Why does that matter at all? Are they calling for a total ban on music in Winterpeg? No. So where is the problem?
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| Macbeth wrote: | | murphycop wrote: | | Its about time they adapt to our culture, or they know where the door is. |
There were Jehovahs Witness kids at our school who were excused School Assembly because there would be hymns sung. Nobody got bent out of shape about that. Well, some of us kids did, but only because we wanted out of the dullness as well. Then we found out they don't get Christmas and forgave them.
Honestly, why does anyone give a crap whether Muslim kids do PE or Music? So they'll grow up slightly less athletic, and not be able to play the oboe badly. Why does that matter at all? Are they calling for a total ban on music in Winterpeg? No. So where is the problem? |
Its not about the music. They want their own laws in our countries. Wasn't there a demonstration about that in London on saturday? Lets stone women to death, we love being multi-cultural after all. If any religious person is going to a normal school, they should do what everyone else has to do. I thought it was all about equality nowdays!?
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| murphycop wrote: | | Macbeth wrote: | | murphycop wrote: | | Its about time they adapt to our culture, or they know where the door is. |
There were Jehovahs Witness kids at our school who were excused School Assembly because there would be hymns sung. Nobody got bent out of shape about that. Well, some of us kids did, but only because we wanted out of the dullness as well. Then we found out they don't get Christmas and forgave them.
Honestly, why does anyone give a crap whether Muslim kids do PE or Music? So they'll grow up slightly less athletic, and not be able to play the oboe badly. Why does that matter at all? Are they calling for a total ban on music in Winterpeg? No. So where is the problem? |
Its not about the music. They want their own laws in our countries. Wasn't there a demonstration about that in London on saturday? Lets stone women to death, we love being multi-cultural after all. If any religious person is going to a normal school, they should do what everyone else has to do. I thought it was all about equality nowdays!? |
No they don't. Where does it say that? It makes NO DIFFERENCE if Muslim kids do PE or not to anyone but themselves. It harms no-one, and they are not forcing anyone else to stop doing mixed lessons. Plenty of parents don't like their children attending various kinds of lessons because they don't agree with what is taught. I don't agree with pro-EU propaganda being taught to my children in school? Should I be thrown out if I don't "integrate"? Its one HELL of a jump from "I'm not comfortable with my son/daughter doing PE with members of the opposite sex." to "I demand the right to beat my women with rocks." As for "They should do what everyone else has to do.." How many people anywhere want to do exactly what everyone else has to do? What happened to freedom of choice? I choose not to attend church. Should I be FORCED to do it, regardless of my views? Jews don't "do" Christmas. Lets FORCE them to do it. FORCING someone to do something that they do not wish to do is morally reprehensible, fascistic and frankly just bleeding rude.
Just because some idiots claim one thing or another, does not mean that everyone thinks the same thing. There are some Muslims with ridiculous demands about Islamic law and what-not, yes. There are some repellent White Christians with some ridiculous views as well. A lot of them were at that rally. Frankly if we are luck all of the repellent bastards will wipe each other out and we will be left with a much nicer, more comfortable society.
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| Macbeth wrote: | | murphycop wrote: | | Macbeth wrote: | | murphycop wrote: | | Its about time they adapt to our culture, or they know where the door is. |
There were Jehovahs Witness kids at our school who were excused School Assembly because there would be hymns sung. Nobody got bent out of shape about that. Well, some of us kids did, but only because we wanted out of the dullness as well. Then we found out they don't get Christmas and forgave them.
Honestly, why does anyone give a crap whether Muslim kids do PE or Music? So they'll grow up slightly less athletic, and not be able to play the oboe badly. Why does that matter at all? Are they calling for a total ban on music in Winterpeg? No. So where is the problem? |
Its not about the music. They want their own laws in our countries. Wasn't there a demonstration about that in London on saturday? Lets stone women to death, we love being multi-cultural after all. If any religious person is going to a normal school, they should do what everyone else has to do. I thought it was all about equality nowdays!? |
No they don't. Where does it say that? It makes NO DIFFERENCE if Muslim kids do PE or not to anyone but themselves. It harms no-one, and they are not forcing anyone else to stop doing mixed lessons. Plenty of parents don't like their children attending various kinds of lessons because they don't agree with what is taught. I don't agree with pro-EU propaganda being taught to my children in school? Should I be thrown out if I don't "integrate"? Its one HELL of a jump from "I'm not comfortable with my son/daughter doing PE with members of the opposite sex." to "I demand the right to beat my women with rocks." As for "They should do what everyone else has to do.." How many people anywhere want to do exactly what everyone else has to do? What happened to freedom of choice? I choose not to attend church. Should I be FORCED to do it, regardless of my views? Jews don't "do" Christmas. Lets FORCE them to do it. FORCING someone to do something that they do not wish to do is morally reprehensible, fascistic and frankly just bleeding rude.
Just because some idiots claim one thing or another, does not mean that everyone thinks the same thing. There are some Muslims with ridiculous demands about Islamic law and what-not, yes. There are some repellent White Christians with some ridiculous views as well. A lot of them were at that rally. Frankly if we are luck all of the repellent bastards will wipe each other out and we will be left with a much nicer, more comfortable society. |
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Its not about forcing them, its about them forcing us to change things for us. If they don't like the way things are, they have the "freedom of choice" to go somewhere else.
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| murphycop wrote: | | Its not about forcing them, its about them forcing us to change things for us. If they don't like the way things are, they have the "freedom of choice" to go somewhere else. |
And again, these people are not forcing anyone to do anything. They simply do not want their children to attend certain lessons. Lessons that are COMPULSORY. Who exactly is forcing whom?
Why exactly are children FORCED to study music or PE? Especially music.
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I never had a problem with participating in Phys. Ed. and usually I could perform various exercises at least as well as the average student. Changing in the locker room is what I hated. I didn't like being naked or near naked around any of the other students.
Oh noooooo! Gym and music involve being around girls! Girls without covering so you can see their hair! Just like spiderwebs! And the kids might take a liking to something else besides that blaring call-to-prayer! OOOOOOooooooooo spooky! (sarcasm)
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| Macbeth wrote: | | murphycop wrote: | | Its not about forcing them, its about them forcing us to change things for us. If they don't like the way things are, they have the "freedom of choice" to go somewhere else. |
And again, these people are not forcing anyone to do anything. They simply do not want their children to attend certain lessons. Lessons that are COMPULSORY. Who exactly is forcing whom?
Why exactly are children FORCED to study music or PE? Especially music. |
I don't know, why are children FORCED to study English, maybe the Muslims kids shouldn't have to do that? Maybe everyone should choose what they want to study, and when they want to go to school.
I know its a big difference between this and the fact Muslims want our culture to suit them, but thanks to certain people, its happening. I wonder what tourists think when they arrive in London, they must wonder if they're in the right country.
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| sgrannel wrote: | I never had a problem with participating in Phys. Ed. and usually I could perform various exercises at least as well as the average student. Changing in the locker room is what I hated. I didn't like being naked or near naked around any of the other students.
Oh noooooo! Gym and music involve being around girls! Girls without covering so you can see their hair! Just like spiderwebs! And the kids might take a liking to something else besides that blaring call-to-prayer! OOOOOOooooooooo spooky! (sarcasm) |
You should've just said it was against your religion, you might've gotten your own changing room built for you.
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| Mindslave wrote: | | Why do you always have to troll around here? |
Somehow if you have some right wing views you're a troll?
I know radical right wingers look ridiculously stupid, but (name removed (ljo)) radical left wingers, look just as stupid, but they're too hypocritical to see it. When we live in a country where you can only have freedom of expression and speech if you're a "minority", its gets very frustrating. The left wing goverment had their 13 years, it was a complete disaster, they need to swallow their pride.
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| murphycop wrote: | | Macbeth wrote: | | murphycop wrote: | | Its not about forcing them, its about them forcing us to change things for us. If they don't like the way things are, they have the "freedom of choice" to go somewhere else. |
And again, these people are not forcing anyone to do anything. They simply do not want their children to attend certain lessons. Lessons that are COMPULSORY. Who exactly is forcing whom?
Why exactly are children FORCED to study music or PE? Especially music. |
I don't know, why are children FORCED to study English, maybe the Muslims kids shouldn't have to do that? Maybe everyone should choose what they want to study, and when they want to go to school.
I know its a big difference between this and the fact Muslims want our culture to suit them, but thanks to certain people, its happening. I wonder what tourists think when they arrive in London, they must wonder if they're in the right country. |
oh, so you are suggesting before THEY came there was a presumed purity of your culture. You are fearful of losing cultural identity, and desire to eliminate the presence of the 'other' by having them assimilate into what you perceive as 'normal' without examining your actual cultural make up to discover how people thought that about your kind before people you now approve of became the political, economic, ideological or cultural power where you are.
We have pockets of people with your attitude in the States, too.
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